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Aug 1, 2022·edited Aug 1, 2022Liked by Harrison Koehli

Fascinating (though painful to read as I grimaced and clenched my teeth). Re "the persistent influence of homosexual attitudes and reactions, aside from overt physical seduction or frank praise of abnormal acts, may cause perplexity and serious conflict in the immature over an area of experience far broader than that ordinarily regarded as sexual. The sexually disordered person usually feels and evaluates the basic aims and issues of human life differently from the normal person, and pathologically. Whatever the sincerity of his intentions or his technical brilliance in expressing himself, whether in teaching or otherwise, he often promotes pathologic concepts which, to the immature, may be disturbing and perhaps tragically harmful."

Cleckley was certainly prescient! As we witness the explosion of arguably insane dysfunction in the last decades since the normalization of homosexual marriage, I am reminded of the theory that disordered example of "spiteful mutants"(1) poisoned the social environment in the mouse utopia experiment colony, leading surprisingly quickly to the total collapse of the colony.

Once underway, does the dysfunction spread like a nuclear fission reaction?

Or was/is it deliberate, as documented by Devon Stack in his analysis of the top-down imposition of these "values" via the media complex? https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/2021-06-11-00-07-22:e

Or is it that "everything from the social upheaval of the 1960s to the sharp rise in autism, cranial nerve palsies, depression, suicide, eating disorders, learning disabilities, seizures, allergies, family dissolution, demyelinating disorders, sexual violence, and other forms of psychopathy & sociopathy — all stem, at least in part, from pervasive subclinical encephalitis (and post-encephalitic syndrome) as a result of vaccines" as proposed by Coulter? https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/book-review-vaccination-social-violence

Or some combination of these factors?

I don't know, but I thank you for providing me with awareness of Cleckley's work as I attempt to assemble accurate maps of our cultural crash and possible reawakening.

If we pull out of the current spiral into pathocracy, I pray we find ways to preserve the hard-earned knowledge we acquired in this death struggle, rather than leaving our descendants needing to re-learn it the hard way again in the future.

(1) Introduction to the concept of Spiteful Mutants.

The work of John Calhoun video: https://youtu.be/NnWSG8vDqK8

paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315368266_Social_Epistasis_Amplifies_the_Fitness_Costs_of_Deleterious_Mutations_Engendering_Rapid_Fitness_Decline_Among_Modernized_Populations

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Yep, I'd say a combination of factors, for sure. Wasn't familiar with Coulter, but I had a similar thought years ago--basically, mass creation of personality-changing brain damage. Thanks for the links!

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Yes thanks for the links.

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It is funny how quickly it's become outré to identify homosexuality as a disorder. From a biological realist perspective, for a sexually reproducing species whose phenotypes for a billion years have been molded through trial and error selection for the most successful mechanism clusters to get lineages' genes into future generations, being sexually attracted to the wrong sex for purposes of reproduction seems to be pretty obviously dysfunctional. Which I think circles back to Cleckley’s point at the end.

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Yep. Believe it or not, it's even more of a social sin for a homosexual man like me to even speculate that my child abuse may have made me this way.

The hostility is over the top.

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Was thinking, wow, this is great, this makes so much sense! Then you dropped this line: "Try to put yourself in that frame of mind. Pretty difficult, no? (Well, hopefully it is.)"

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LOL! Well, it's supposed to make sense intellectually, just not emotionally.

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But wouldn't the psychopath in this example not really be processing such interactions emotionally? I imagine it would be experienced more in an intellectual sense absent the visceral emotional feedback that typically accompanies sexual encounters. Put another way, isn't putting yourself into the frame of mind as easy as intellectualizing such an encounter/simply ignoring the emotional ramifications?

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"But wouldn't the psychopath in this example not really be processing such interactions emotionally?"

That's pretty much exactly what I meant by saying it's supposed to make sense intellectually but not emotionally. That you literally have to remove your own emotional nature from the equation to put yourself in that frame of mind, which for most people is difficult if not impossible. A way to rephrase what I wrote is: Can you imagine yourself actually doing the same thing? Personally, I can't. It's so far out there as to appear absurd. Now, I can imagine it in an abstract way. I can visualize it. I can try to recreate that frame of mind for myself in my mind. But the result is the same: "Jesus, I could never do that."

Same thing with trying to put oneself in the frame of mind of a serial killer, coprophiliac, or pedophile. I'd guess that for the vast majority of people, doing so is simply impossible. It's so foreign that they can't even attempt such a thing. Then there's probably a minority who is willing to at least try out such a thought experiment, trying to understand what it must be like. Maybe they can get close.

Then there are those who have no problem imagining it, because that's actually what they're like (which is what I was trying to imply by writing "hopefully it is").

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Aug 2, 2022Liked by Harrison Koehli

Hmmm, I don't really have a problem imagining any of it. I'm very confident I'm capable of empathy and feeling emotion normally, but I don't typically have an emotional response to assessing highly evocative subject matter unless I actively facilitate it. I'm not really sure if this is a habit I've developed or secondary to some innate abnormality. I've recognized that a lot of other people seem to feel first then reason after (especially egalitarians). I like to believe that I reason first and think about the emotional implications of my conclusions afterward. In this case, I surmise that if I engaged in any of the behaviors you outline in this article (say to get paid, I'm definitely not intrinsically motivated to do any of it) I would certainly feel very uncomfortable about it afterward/memories of it would be painfully cringe-inducing. That is for the voluntary stuff, anything that involves hurting anyone, if only emotionally induces performance crushing cognitive dissonance, but mostly in retrospect. Is this really that abnormal? I feel like a lot of people must do this.

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Sounds like you might just be more on the systematizing end of the "systematizing/empathizing" spectrum. I think I'm more on the opposite end. So who knows, maybe we're both guilty of projecting our own tendencies onto others? We'd have to take a poll! Just as an example, if I imagine myself in the psychopath/homosexual dynamic, I can try to picture what it would be like to be the psychopath, but if I picture myself, as I know I am, actually doing it, there is no way I would be able to engage in that activity with any level of detachment -- "just for the hell of it," for example. It wouldn't just be the memory of it that would be cringe-inducing. Same for any of the others. Putting myself in those other scenarios I mentioned, I would probably vomit!

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