Well, the medical establishment set up a scenario by which doctors and nurses abetted murder (covid policy), which we are all apparently supposed to act like it didn't happen, so then if you deny everybody with competence and then uplift people who don't deserve it, the latter will be even more likely to accept whatever the medical establishment demands of them, like sterilizing and disfiguring young girls and making eunuchs of young boys.
Yeah, that and I just heard the good doctor Redfield say the Great Pandemic is coming, it will be a bird flu, and it will be gain of function and maybe bioterrorism. Which I assume we can expect whenever the banks or dollar look shaky, if not sooner.
Unfortunately, this is typical for nations in the tail end of the disintegrative phase of a secular cycle. Just started reading Turchin's latest book on this, "End Times."
Any process, program, organization, institution or nebulous group that asks for (or more frequently these days, demands) racial identification, is racist. X Kendi made it very publicly clear with his bullshit about being racist to be anti racist, and so many watched as another marxist dialectic train wreck crashed into our station.
I think more people are waking up, the challenge now is to get positive action out of them to restore true justice to our crumbling societies.
Seeing that Step One includes a focus on communication and interpersonal skills, something occurs to me: it's a common complaint among a certain set that doctors don't "listen;" or that, rather than be compassionate and nonjudgmental, they make "hurtful" recommendations and prescriptions.
This set hasn't considered the alternative: a doctor who "listens," and validates, and extends compassion -- but who then provides grossly incompetent care, because offering empty validation is the only thing they're qualified (or allowed) to do.
My impression was that "social justice" has been applied in a more narrow legal sense: That past social injustices must be remedied by some sort of renovated justice process. It involves discussions about such remedies as reparations.
It is argued that our legal system continues to be "unjust" because of social biases concerning class, race, economic status that are "baked in." Social Justice seeks remedies for this. There are questions about the factual correctness of these assertions of bias, though there are supporting statistics. And of course there is the question of whether it is really "just" to punish people for the perceived sins of their ancestors or other unidentified causal agents in society.
The older argument of whether it is "just" for people to be equally compensated for unequal amounts of productive work was never resolved. The extreme position of the criminal is that they are owed support even though they contribute nothing worthwhile to the group. You could argue that the concept of basic human rights, which includes the right to life, applies even to the criminal, though he is a violator of others' rights and therefore must have some of his own rights curtailed. Criminally-inclined persons continue to use such concepts to justify their existence.
From reincarnation research we know that simply killing someone does not resolve their personality deficiencies. They return in a new body, often no better behaved than they were before. Though the death punishment, or any lesser punishment, can create a sort of general fear - if not loathing - for whatever government is doing the punishing, there is little evidence that it does anything to improve behaviors. You actually have to "solve a case" to change the way a person thinks and acts. This is no small job which the current legal and mental health systems are totally incapable of.
Some advantage can be attained by paying attention to who is acting psychopathic in a society and isolating them from the group. But this itself is a huge challenge that no current government is capable of managing. So we muddle on. The cries for "justice" are often egged on by those who really don't deserve it, while they also maintain the system in a state a imbalance that chronically inflames various different individuals and groups. And you get a situation of constant discontent, which is what the crazies among us prefer.
Yep, that's a good summary of how they view it. The problem is that justice is something that applies to individuals, or groups of individuals. The idea of reparations is largely a violation of justice, especially in the sense in which contemporary people view it. Socially uplifting an untalented person to a position of responsibility that requires talent is itself unjust, to the person and everyone else affected by it. In this sense, social justice as popularly conceived is a fantasy. It's a made-up concept. But, when conceived as justice in a social setting, it makes sense. You can't do justice to someone who was socially maladjusted 100 years ago by rewarding someone alive today. That can only be the result of the person's own talents.
That's not to say that too strict a sense of justice is a good thing. Too strict "social justice" might come to resemble a rigid caste system, or an overly complex system of compensation where everything is calculated according to an endless series of metrics. We're more flexible than that. As Lobaczewski says, people generally have a good idea if they are in a good position, socially and financially. That's probably also why popular immiseration is such a big factor in the decline phase of secular cycles. When wages stagnate, everyone at the bottom can feel that something isn't right.
As for the reincarnation idea, there are situations where the death penalty is probably the best option due to a person's intransigence and violation of basic morality. "No hard feelings, but this really isn't working out." After a string of lifetimes where your social group executes you, hopefully you will get the message that you're doing something wrong. Kind of like the guy or gal who has a string of bad relationships, where it's always the other person's fault. "Maybe it's you?"
Your arguments concerning what real "justice" is are of course quite sensible. Thus the "social justice" movement as we know it today is not interested in real justice.
However, it is not clear to me that people like this EVER learn from their past experiences. For one thing, past life experiences are more or less erased every time we die. So, though a person may experience persecution lifetime after lifetime due to his socially destructive behaviors, every single lifetime appears to the person as a new experience. He never has a chance to realize that there might be something wrong with him, as each lifetime he arrives as an "innocent:" baby.
I'm less of an eternal recurrence type guy and more of a 'lessons learned, if sometimes painfully slowly' type guy. Some will learn. Others will not. Of those, some will simply disintegrate back into formless potential. Others may learn to become even more evil. It's our job to find them and do something about them to protect ourselves. Which is also a long-term learning project! ;)
I can appreciate your viewpoint on this matter. My "job" on the internet is to let others know that a lot of what they still think of as mysteries or unfinished work has in fact been solved and done. Of course, they can continue to believe that this isn't true and that they should still search for answers and so should society. My only warning is that we may not have that much time to recognize the valuables that already exist on our planet and put them into use. Certainly my group and my teacher feels this way about the situation, and believe this concern is based on reliable information.
Great stuff. As an experienced professional engineer, I haven't noticed a decrease in competence in new engineering grads yet (admittedly I don't meet that many) but it may happen in the future.
I think the hard sciences will be the last to experience it. Humanities and social sciences are already gone. Medicine is right in the middle. Math, physics, and engineering next, I'm afraid!
One further thought. As long as 'society' cares about stuff actually working, we are protected. If 'society' decides that some system 'working' is less important than say 'climate change' and decisions are taken on the basis of criteria other than physical performance (which IS actually happening in some places) then all bets are off.
I agree I sense its on its way. The one redeeming feature of engineering at least (more so even than say physics or chemistry) is that its empirical and engineers by nature want to make things work. And stuff works or its doesn't, so pretenders are relatively easy to spot.
The one thing that is genuinely happening in the energy engineering sector is the pressure to meet 'climate goals' and society's attempt to engineer entirely new energy systems, and in short time frames. There is enormous pressure to build things that probably wont work well, being promoted by 'energy experts', and some are likely to fail. But these 'energy experts' are often not professional engineers, who have various ethical and professional codes to adhere to, so the engineers themselves do all they can. But physics has its limits.
There was a story a few years back where there was some foot bridge over a highway in Florida that collapsed and killed some people, and I dont know the truth, there was a lot of media/pundit noise about the engineering or construction using diversity hires and this caused the failure. I dont think it was true. but it was news for awhile.
I re-read it, I skimmed it first. I do think the 'diversity hire' problem is real, and can and probably has degraded some technology team performance. I am not sure how much its showing up in real life, but it has the potential to.
Mr. Koehli, I apologize in advance for an off topic question, but I know no better person or place to ask it.
I have begun reading Political Ponerology, and at least in the edition I have, the term "involution" is used frequently, but none of the definitions the dictionary gives me seem to make much sense in context. Can you explain what this term means and how it is being used by Lobeczewski, or at least by the translator?
great article! When entrance exams are dumbed down to bridge the racial gap, every exam downstream must also be dumbed down. As the article points out, the recipient of preference does not benefit, it's the DEI bureaucracy and progressives. They will most likely be unaffected by their destructive social justice ideology. They can most likely afford the best doctors.
So most of us know about the evil of DEI by now. I would like to start hearing about solutions. What can we do? Are their any organizations with the resources to fight this?
Ty for the Palladium must-read! 👌 (Do I see a nod in McConkey's direction? 🤭)
“Ask, Tell, Make” force escalation algorithm is a Swiss knife of a tool, an entire framework even. For both sense-making and action in our lost long-suffering world (formerly known by the moniker Western Civilisation 🤪).
🗨 If you think sheer stupidity is enough to explain what is happening, then nothing written here is going to help you cut through the Lovecraftian horror you’re attempting to nervously lecture out of existence.
Well, the medical establishment set up a scenario by which doctors and nurses abetted murder (covid policy), which we are all apparently supposed to act like it didn't happen, so then if you deny everybody with competence and then uplift people who don't deserve it, the latter will be even more likely to accept whatever the medical establishment demands of them, like sterilizing and disfiguring young girls and making eunuchs of young boys.
Yeah, that and I just heard the good doctor Redfield say the Great Pandemic is coming, it will be a bird flu, and it will be gain of function and maybe bioterrorism. Which I assume we can expect whenever the banks or dollar look shaky, if not sooner.
We are in a country divided against itself.
Unfortunately, this is typical for nations in the tail end of the disintegrative phase of a secular cycle. Just started reading Turchin's latest book on this, "End Times."
Any process, program, organization, institution or nebulous group that asks for (or more frequently these days, demands) racial identification, is racist. X Kendi made it very publicly clear with his bullshit about being racist to be anti racist, and so many watched as another marxist dialectic train wreck crashed into our station.
I think more people are waking up, the challenge now is to get positive action out of them to restore true justice to our crumbling societies.
Seeing that Step One includes a focus on communication and interpersonal skills, something occurs to me: it's a common complaint among a certain set that doctors don't "listen;" or that, rather than be compassionate and nonjudgmental, they make "hurtful" recommendations and prescriptions.
This set hasn't considered the alternative: a doctor who "listens," and validates, and extends compassion -- but who then provides grossly incompetent care, because offering empty validation is the only thing they're qualified (or allowed) to do.
My impression was that "social justice" has been applied in a more narrow legal sense: That past social injustices must be remedied by some sort of renovated justice process. It involves discussions about such remedies as reparations.
It is argued that our legal system continues to be "unjust" because of social biases concerning class, race, economic status that are "baked in." Social Justice seeks remedies for this. There are questions about the factual correctness of these assertions of bias, though there are supporting statistics. And of course there is the question of whether it is really "just" to punish people for the perceived sins of their ancestors or other unidentified causal agents in society.
The older argument of whether it is "just" for people to be equally compensated for unequal amounts of productive work was never resolved. The extreme position of the criminal is that they are owed support even though they contribute nothing worthwhile to the group. You could argue that the concept of basic human rights, which includes the right to life, applies even to the criminal, though he is a violator of others' rights and therefore must have some of his own rights curtailed. Criminally-inclined persons continue to use such concepts to justify their existence.
From reincarnation research we know that simply killing someone does not resolve their personality deficiencies. They return in a new body, often no better behaved than they were before. Though the death punishment, or any lesser punishment, can create a sort of general fear - if not loathing - for whatever government is doing the punishing, there is little evidence that it does anything to improve behaviors. You actually have to "solve a case" to change the way a person thinks and acts. This is no small job which the current legal and mental health systems are totally incapable of.
Some advantage can be attained by paying attention to who is acting psychopathic in a society and isolating them from the group. But this itself is a huge challenge that no current government is capable of managing. So we muddle on. The cries for "justice" are often egged on by those who really don't deserve it, while they also maintain the system in a state a imbalance that chronically inflames various different individuals and groups. And you get a situation of constant discontent, which is what the crazies among us prefer.
Yep, that's a good summary of how they view it. The problem is that justice is something that applies to individuals, or groups of individuals. The idea of reparations is largely a violation of justice, especially in the sense in which contemporary people view it. Socially uplifting an untalented person to a position of responsibility that requires talent is itself unjust, to the person and everyone else affected by it. In this sense, social justice as popularly conceived is a fantasy. It's a made-up concept. But, when conceived as justice in a social setting, it makes sense. You can't do justice to someone who was socially maladjusted 100 years ago by rewarding someone alive today. That can only be the result of the person's own talents.
That's not to say that too strict a sense of justice is a good thing. Too strict "social justice" might come to resemble a rigid caste system, or an overly complex system of compensation where everything is calculated according to an endless series of metrics. We're more flexible than that. As Lobaczewski says, people generally have a good idea if they are in a good position, socially and financially. That's probably also why popular immiseration is such a big factor in the decline phase of secular cycles. When wages stagnate, everyone at the bottom can feel that something isn't right.
As for the reincarnation idea, there are situations where the death penalty is probably the best option due to a person's intransigence and violation of basic morality. "No hard feelings, but this really isn't working out." After a string of lifetimes where your social group executes you, hopefully you will get the message that you're doing something wrong. Kind of like the guy or gal who has a string of bad relationships, where it's always the other person's fault. "Maybe it's you?"
Your arguments concerning what real "justice" is are of course quite sensible. Thus the "social justice" movement as we know it today is not interested in real justice.
However, it is not clear to me that people like this EVER learn from their past experiences. For one thing, past life experiences are more or less erased every time we die. So, though a person may experience persecution lifetime after lifetime due to his socially destructive behaviors, every single lifetime appears to the person as a new experience. He never has a chance to realize that there might be something wrong with him, as each lifetime he arrives as an "innocent:" baby.
I'm less of an eternal recurrence type guy and more of a 'lessons learned, if sometimes painfully slowly' type guy. Some will learn. Others will not. Of those, some will simply disintegrate back into formless potential. Others may learn to become even more evil. It's our job to find them and do something about them to protect ourselves. Which is also a long-term learning project! ;)
I can appreciate your viewpoint on this matter. My "job" on the internet is to let others know that a lot of what they still think of as mysteries or unfinished work has in fact been solved and done. Of course, they can continue to believe that this isn't true and that they should still search for answers and so should society. My only warning is that we may not have that much time to recognize the valuables that already exist on our planet and put them into use. Certainly my group and my teacher feels this way about the situation, and believe this concern is based on reliable information.
Great stuff. As an experienced professional engineer, I haven't noticed a decrease in competence in new engineering grads yet (admittedly I don't meet that many) but it may happen in the future.
I think the hard sciences will be the last to experience it. Humanities and social sciences are already gone. Medicine is right in the middle. Math, physics, and engineering next, I'm afraid!
One further thought. As long as 'society' cares about stuff actually working, we are protected. If 'society' decides that some system 'working' is less important than say 'climate change' and decisions are taken on the basis of criteria other than physical performance (which IS actually happening in some places) then all bets are off.
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I agree I sense its on its way. The one redeeming feature of engineering at least (more so even than say physics or chemistry) is that its empirical and engineers by nature want to make things work. And stuff works or its doesn't, so pretenders are relatively easy to spot.
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the Palladium article, which touches on some stuff closer to engineering.
The one thing that is genuinely happening in the energy engineering sector is the pressure to meet 'climate goals' and society's attempt to engineer entirely new energy systems, and in short time frames. There is enormous pressure to build things that probably wont work well, being promoted by 'energy experts', and some are likely to fail. But these 'energy experts' are often not professional engineers, who have various ethical and professional codes to adhere to, so the engineers themselves do all they can. But physics has its limits.
There was a story a few years back where there was some foot bridge over a highway in Florida that collapsed and killed some people, and I dont know the truth, there was a lot of media/pundit noise about the engineering or construction using diversity hires and this caused the failure. I dont think it was true. but it was news for awhile.
I re-read it, I skimmed it first. I do think the 'diversity hire' problem is real, and can and probably has degraded some technology team performance. I am not sure how much its showing up in real life, but it has the potential to.
Mr. Koehli, I apologize in advance for an off topic question, but I know no better person or place to ask it.
I have begun reading Political Ponerology, and at least in the edition I have, the term "involution" is used frequently, but none of the definitions the dictionary gives me seem to make much sense in context. Can you explain what this term means and how it is being used by Lobeczewski, or at least by the translator?
No problem, Jab. He means it in the sense of a regression or "devolution"--less rich, less developed, more primitive, etc.
Thank you!
great article! When entrance exams are dumbed down to bridge the racial gap, every exam downstream must also be dumbed down. As the article points out, the recipient of preference does not benefit, it's the DEI bureaucracy and progressives. They will most likely be unaffected by their destructive social justice ideology. They can most likely afford the best doctors.
So most of us know about the evil of DEI by now. I would like to start hearing about solutions. What can we do? Are their any organizations with the resources to fight this?
Ty for the Palladium must-read! 👌 (Do I see a nod in McConkey's direction? 🤭)
“Ask, Tell, Make” force escalation algorithm is a Swiss knife of a tool, an entire framework even. For both sense-making and action in our lost long-suffering world (formerly known by the moniker Western Civilisation 🤪).
Brilliant!
The divide & rule adage at work again. Destroy our mental health not just our bodies.
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🗨 If you think sheer stupidity is enough to explain what is happening, then nothing written here is going to help you cut through the Lovecraftian horror you’re attempting to nervously lecture out of existence.
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