“A person is selected because they have the requisite vulnerability. Not everyone can be prey. They need to attend to their predator, not ignore them. A person living a fulfilled life on their own terms is more difficult to prey upon than a person seeking something the predator can pretend to fill.” (Category 2)
This is perhaps why the tactic known as GREYROCK is very good to have up your sleeve. It means to refuse to rise to the bait. Refuse to become emotional and reactive. Do not let them draw you in to their drama. Respond with utter boredom.
I have heard of cases of this tactic working in Family Courts, when the predator is trying very hard to make his prey appear to be an unreliable emotional wreck. Often through perjury and a litany of lies. The person who is prey generally has huge stakes at risk here -- such as their financial wellbeing....or even worse -- the wellbeing of their children. So they predictably fall apart, and the predator comes off as the cat who got the cream. The predators usually win in these scenarios.
As Ross Rosenberg says...."Observe, don't Absorb". That is your shield here. Do not let them press your buttons, because they are doing it to make you look bad and themselves look good. They want your emotional-wreck reaction.
Fantastic series here Harrison! I've got Mitchell's PhD thesis but it's a hell of a lot to sift through - so very much appreciate you doing this work and bringing it to us with your links to Lobaczewski's work. Brilliant.
Two Psychopaths in the regular media news recently -- Alex Murdaugh, the American former lawyer in South Carolina who killed his wife and son.
And the man in France who regularly drugged his wife most nights and then invited strangers in to abuse her. Though they had been married for many years and had three children together.
Check out that recent interview of Dr. Varma by Steven Crowder that caused quite a storm by what it revealed about that character. It sounds like another classic case, and horrifying because of the position he held during the Covid Op. It opened a LOT of eyes!
"'Unthinkable, immoral act': Woman ordered to pay $375,000 for sabotaging boyfriend's musical career
When McGill student Eric Abramovitz won a scholarship to study with a prestigious L.A. professor, Jennifer Lee began a ‘despicable’ scheme of fake emails to stop him"
"A person living a fulfilled life on their own terms is more difficult to prey upon than a person seeking something the predator can pretend to fill.” (Category 2)
It has been speculated that many young cult recruits were still dealing with dependency needs, which rendered them vulnerable enough for the cult predators to draw them in.
"An inter-hemispheric imbalance in the psychopath’s brain" David Hecht paper, published about a year and a half after the first Iain McGilchrist book came out.
“From a neurobiological perspective, it seems that psychopathy may be associated with an altered and imbalanced inter-hemispheric dynamics; a relatively hyperfunctioning LH and/or a hypofunctioning RH. Furthermore, within the psychopathic population, the RH hypofunctioning is more characteristic of primary psychopathy with its affective and interpersonal deficits, while the LH hyperfunctioning is most typical of the secondary psychopathy which is marked by impulsivity and antisocial style.”
"Predation is discussed in the data as gaining satisfaction from a ‘cat and mouse’ process with the target/victim, playing with the target/victim in ways that destroy the target’s/victim’s confidence and sense of self."
I have heard this called Psychological torture. Soul murder.
An Australian woman named Melanie Tonia Evans runs a website with actual accounts of this sort of experience. However -- and this is a biggie -- she also says she has a way to move past the effects. Her own experience reminds me of the account of Bill Wilson in the 1930s as to how he suddenly "knew" the 12-Steps which became the basis of Alcoholics Anonymous.
Ms. Evans uses a lot of spiritualism-talk, which may or may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I have heard of her principles before in other venues. She may have something there. The idea is post-traumatic growth.
As I had mentioned here and elsewhere, Ms. Evans' spiritualism may not come across as suitable for everyone. I discovered the ideas she uses (they are explored in several venues) as an approach for a person to heal from serious Narcissistic Abuse. She communicates this in plainspeak. And offers practical examples from many individuals who have used this way forward. She offers support, and a plan.
The Trauma Bond between predator and prey, Cluster-B personality and target, will continue as a Re-enactment Compulsion if not dealt with. In other words, there are lessons we must master or life will continue presenting them to us. That is quite a well-known concept.
The techniques which Ms. Evans uses are found elsewhere too, but she does package it all together with copious explanations. You can take or leave the talk of spiritualism, although I think that you must have some belief in a higher power. Much like the 12-Steps.
I am not selling her program; just suggesting it as a matter of interest. Grasping the idea that there may be a two-way relationship between predator and prey is important. Not victim-blaming.....far more complex than that. More like two opposing poles which attract one another.
Actually, her methods include visualization techniques found in Psychotherapy, and are mainly about a building of the Self. You seem to be fixed on mis-interpreting it here.
You do whatever you want. Her book with the same program was less than $15 on Amazon not too long ago.
As I have said repeatedly, you have to understand the principles she is using here, and why. I don't think you do.
I will leave you to do your own homework on that. It is not my job to convince you. I simply posted about this as a resource for potential enlightenment. Obviously, the Cluster-B disorders are mysterious in many ways. If you have better answers, you are free to use them.
I have noticed that two Cluster-B types will come together if they have been using the same scapegoat. Even if it seems very implausible that they would. Such as the first and second Narcissist wives of a vulnerable husband. Even though the second wife may have "lovingly commiserated" with him over the antics of the first wife. Once the Narc-discard of the husband is arranged by wife #2, she crosses the floor to the enemy side. Then together, they may attack their former husband., and even arrange to alienate from him all of his children at once (from both marriages).
Or two employees in different sections of a company who were strangers to one another, but happen to have been scapegoating the same person at the company....will usually find one another so as to continue a double-barreled attack on that scapegoat. Even though they would not have normally had any kind of relationship with each other.
If you want further examples of the slow and insidious weakening process used on children in Parental Alienation, by one of their own parents -- another Cluster-B set-up -- I recommend the fairly short book entitled "Sabotaged! The weapons of Parental Alienation" by Ryan Thomas (for downloading on his website).
Oh...I have many years of experience and studying behind me here, Harrison. I eat information on whatever topic interests me, and then I connect the dots quite readily. I could pull out a reference a minute.....but that would be overload for most readers. I am a bit intense.
"This weakening process can be slow and insidious, and “quite subtle,” such that even the target 'cannot quite identify how or even that they have been treated poorly' (Category 3). "
This is sometimes done through varying degrees of passive-aggressive tactics. Such as presenting the female prey, for instance, with a birthday gift of clothing. And then adding breezily, "I made sure to leave the store receipt in the gift box for an exchange, because I know there are few colours you can wear well." OR, "I left the receipt in the box because once you try it on, if you look like mutton dressed as lamb, you can exchange it." OR "Some women do put on weight as they get older, so I remembered to put the receipt in there ....if you need to exchange it for a larger size."
To a male prey they might say, casually, "Was it your mother's side or your father's side that had the early hair-loss pattern?
To a bride-prey on her wedding day, who had innocently chosen the PPP as her maid of honour without realizing what was up, the PPP would phone on the wedding to say how sorry she was she could not deliver that item she promised, needed for the bridal outfit; slipped her mind to mention it sooner. Oh and btw....she hadn't had time (in 6 months) to have her bridesmaid gown made-up, but not to worry because she probably has something in the back of her closet that would do. Then the PPP would hold up the wedding by arriving late. And tell the bride not to cry at all of this because she would ruin her photos.
Ted Bundy was both a narcissist and a psychopath. He targeted his victims because they incited his schadenfreude form of envy. Schadenfreude says "if I can't have what you possess, neither can you". When a beautiful woman walked in the room all eyes focused on her. This enraged Bundy and left him with feelings of shame and humiliation. No matter how attractive, intelligent, good looking, suave, sophisticated, charming, debonair, he was, he could never compete with a beautiful woman. Had all women been homely like Ruth Bader Ginsberg or Mother Theresa, Ted Bundy may have went on to be a successful lawyer.
“A person is selected because they have the requisite vulnerability. Not everyone can be prey. They need to attend to their predator, not ignore them. A person living a fulfilled life on their own terms is more difficult to prey upon than a person seeking something the predator can pretend to fill.” (Category 2)
This is perhaps why the tactic known as GREYROCK is very good to have up your sleeve. It means to refuse to rise to the bait. Refuse to become emotional and reactive. Do not let them draw you in to their drama. Respond with utter boredom.
I have heard of cases of this tactic working in Family Courts, when the predator is trying very hard to make his prey appear to be an unreliable emotional wreck. Often through perjury and a litany of lies. The person who is prey generally has huge stakes at risk here -- such as their financial wellbeing....or even worse -- the wellbeing of their children. So they predictably fall apart, and the predator comes off as the cat who got the cream. The predators usually win in these scenarios.
As Ross Rosenberg says...."Observe, don't Absorb". That is your shield here. Do not let them press your buttons, because they are doing it to make you look bad and themselves look good. They want your emotional-wreck reaction.
Instead, be bored.
Excellent stuff. I'm very much appreciating these posts.
Your articles are so good, Harrison, that I stop at every paragraph or so to think...Ah-h-h, that reminds me. And then I blurt out a comment.
In the next few hours I am sure I will make it to the end!
You deal with this material extremely well, you know. My hat is off to you.
Fantastic series here Harrison! I've got Mitchell's PhD thesis but it's a hell of a lot to sift through - so very much appreciate you doing this work and bringing it to us with your links to Lobaczewski's work. Brilliant.
Two Psychopaths in the regular media news recently -- Alex Murdaugh, the American former lawyer in South Carolina who killed his wife and son.
And the man in France who regularly drugged his wife most nights and then invited strangers in to abuse her. Though they had been married for many years and had three children together.
Check out that recent interview of Dr. Varma by Steven Crowder that caused quite a storm by what it revealed about that character. It sounds like another classic case, and horrifying because of the position he held during the Covid Op. It opened a LOT of eyes!
"'Unthinkable, immoral act': Woman ordered to pay $375,000 for sabotaging boyfriend's musical career
When McGill student Eric Abramovitz won a scholarship to study with a prestigious L.A. professor, Jennifer Lee began a ‘despicable’ scheme of fake emails to stop him"
Joseph Brean
National Post Jun 14, 2018
Borderline Personality Disorder (Cluster-B) going on?
"A person living a fulfilled life on their own terms is more difficult to prey upon than a person seeking something the predator can pretend to fill.” (Category 2)
It has been speculated that many young cult recruits were still dealing with dependency needs, which rendered them vulnerable enough for the cult predators to draw them in.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/08/british-zoologist-prison-rapining-killing-dogs-australia/
Zoologist Adam Britton
Human crocodile, more like it.
Jaysis, he was fucking horses at 13
"An inter-hemispheric imbalance in the psychopath’s brain" David Hecht paper, published about a year and a half after the first Iain McGilchrist book came out.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019188691100119X
“From a neurobiological perspective, it seems that psychopathy may be associated with an altered and imbalanced inter-hemispheric dynamics; a relatively hyperfunctioning LH and/or a hypofunctioning RH. Furthermore, within the psychopathic population, the RH hypofunctioning is more characteristic of primary psychopathy with its affective and interpersonal deficits, while the LH hyperfunctioning is most typical of the secondary psychopathy which is marked by impulsivity and antisocial style.”
Nice!
Like Reeves and Ripley recognised each other in Venice.
These findings correspond with my understanding of this type of personality.
I think they make it obvious why my teacher considers such people so dangerous.
"Predation is discussed in the data as gaining satisfaction from a ‘cat and mouse’ process with the target/victim, playing with the target/victim in ways that destroy the target’s/victim’s confidence and sense of self."
I have heard this called Psychological torture. Soul murder.
An Australian woman named Melanie Tonia Evans runs a website with actual accounts of this sort of experience. However -- and this is a biggie -- she also says she has a way to move past the effects. Her own experience reminds me of the account of Bill Wilson in the 1930s as to how he suddenly "knew" the 12-Steps which became the basis of Alcoholics Anonymous.
Ms. Evans uses a lot of spiritualism-talk, which may or may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I have heard of her principles before in other venues. She may have something there. The idea is post-traumatic growth.
I had a quick look at the website you mentioned (Tonia EVANS)
It says
"This process unleashes your Higher Self, aligned with 5th Density Unity Consciousness,"
From what I know 5D is not that much of an very accessible place (to say the least)
As I had mentioned here and elsewhere, Ms. Evans' spiritualism may not come across as suitable for everyone. I discovered the ideas she uses (they are explored in several venues) as an approach for a person to heal from serious Narcissistic Abuse. She communicates this in plainspeak. And offers practical examples from many individuals who have used this way forward. She offers support, and a plan.
The Trauma Bond between predator and prey, Cluster-B personality and target, will continue as a Re-enactment Compulsion if not dealt with. In other words, there are lessons we must master or life will continue presenting them to us. That is quite a well-known concept.
The techniques which Ms. Evans uses are found elsewhere too, but she does package it all together with copious explanations. You can take or leave the talk of spiritualism, although I think that you must have some belief in a higher power. Much like the 12-Steps.
I am not selling her program; just suggesting it as a matter of interest. Grasping the idea that there may be a two-way relationship between predator and prey is important. Not victim-blaming.....far more complex than that. More like two opposing poles which attract one another.
A not-free spiritual program featuring "Quantum tunnelling" & "Ascension to 5D" is something that objectively deserves the approach of
"run away"
rather than
"Ms. Evans' spiritualism may not come across as suitable for everyone. I discovered the ideas she uses (...)"
Hmmm
Actually, her methods include visualization techniques found in Psychotherapy, and are mainly about a building of the Self. You seem to be fixed on mis-interpreting it here.
You do whatever you want. Her book with the same program was less than $15 on Amazon not too long ago.
As I have said repeatedly, you have to understand the principles she is using here, and why. I don't think you do.
I will leave you to do your own homework on that. It is not my job to convince you. I simply posted about this as a resource for potential enlightenment. Obviously, the Cluster-B disorders are mysterious in many ways. If you have better answers, you are free to use them.
copy-pasting the above in an artificial intelligence text detector provides a 94% match
I have noticed that two Cluster-B types will come together if they have been using the same scapegoat. Even if it seems very implausible that they would. Such as the first and second Narcissist wives of a vulnerable husband. Even though the second wife may have "lovingly commiserated" with him over the antics of the first wife. Once the Narc-discard of the husband is arranged by wife #2, she crosses the floor to the enemy side. Then together, they may attack their former husband., and even arrange to alienate from him all of his children at once (from both marriages).
Or two employees in different sections of a company who were strangers to one another, but happen to have been scapegoating the same person at the company....will usually find one another so as to continue a double-barreled attack on that scapegoat. Even though they would not have normally had any kind of relationship with each other.
If you want further examples of the slow and insidious weakening process used on children in Parental Alienation, by one of their own parents -- another Cluster-B set-up -- I recommend the fairly short book entitled "Sabotaged! The weapons of Parental Alienation" by Ryan Thomas (for downloading on his website).
If you were to make a substack summarizing all these books, I would read it!
Oh...I have many years of experience and studying behind me here, Harrison. I eat information on whatever topic interests me, and then I connect the dots quite readily. I could pull out a reference a minute.....but that would be overload for most readers. I am a bit intense.
If it gets to a publishable point, let me know and we’ll see if I can help.
"This weakening process can be slow and insidious, and “quite subtle,” such that even the target 'cannot quite identify how or even that they have been treated poorly' (Category 3). "
This is sometimes done through varying degrees of passive-aggressive tactics. Such as presenting the female prey, for instance, with a birthday gift of clothing. And then adding breezily, "I made sure to leave the store receipt in the gift box for an exchange, because I know there are few colours you can wear well." OR, "I left the receipt in the box because once you try it on, if you look like mutton dressed as lamb, you can exchange it." OR "Some women do put on weight as they get older, so I remembered to put the receipt in there ....if you need to exchange it for a larger size."
To a male prey they might say, casually, "Was it your mother's side or your father's side that had the early hair-loss pattern?
To a bride-prey on her wedding day, who had innocently chosen the PPP as her maid of honour without realizing what was up, the PPP would phone on the wedding to say how sorry she was she could not deliver that item she promised, needed for the bridal outfit; slipped her mind to mention it sooner. Oh and btw....she hadn't had time (in 6 months) to have her bridesmaid gown made-up, but not to worry because she probably has something in the back of her closet that would do. Then the PPP would hold up the wedding by arriving late. And tell the bride not to cry at all of this because she would ruin her photos.
Ted Bundy was both a narcissist and a psychopath. He targeted his victims because they incited his schadenfreude form of envy. Schadenfreude says "if I can't have what you possess, neither can you". When a beautiful woman walked in the room all eyes focused on her. This enraged Bundy and left him with feelings of shame and humiliation. No matter how attractive, intelligent, good looking, suave, sophisticated, charming, debonair, he was, he could never compete with a beautiful woman. Had all women been homely like Ruth Bader Ginsberg or Mother Theresa, Ted Bundy may have went on to be a successful lawyer.