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Mark Bisone's avatar

"By conceiving of the national security in this way, you end up engaging in behaviors that arguably also threaten the national security. For one, you make people distrust or even hate you."

What if that’s the point? Not to get them to hate "you", exactly (for you yourself are shrouded in secrecy). But to hate and mistrust what you mistakenlyj see as the power structure of your nation, and maybe of nations in general.

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I have also been interested in how all this came to be.

According to my Wikipedia-level understanding of the subject of "state secrets," this did not really become a national issue until a little before World War 1 in the UK and a little after that in the U.S. And document classification did not become a big thing in the U.S. until 1951.

That puts us squarely after the Roswell incident in the U.S. However, the government was very successful at keeping the Manhattan Project a secret between 1942 and when the bombs were dropped on Japan.

Some think that Roswell and various related contacts with "ET" were triggered by our use of atomic weapons. In any case, when ET became a real thing for our government, a need to have a formal structure to keep it a secret seemed obvious at the time.

I don't have a lot more data from that time period. But I think it is clear that if the reality of ET were to be revealed, a large amount of government and corporate blab and posturing would be widely seen as deceitful. There was no one there pushing for a more mature and honest approach to the whole problem. If Kennedy knew about it and wanted to do something in that direction, that would have been a good excuse to have him killed. But I don't know the facts in that regard.

I know that by 1952, Hubbard's research had made it clear to him that ET was real. And at about that time, he began to be pounded for being a madman. Up to then he had been a reputable and popular story writer and adventurer.

To the extent that this ties in with "secret power groups" is unclear to me. But Courtney Brown has found evidence that ET directly monitors and influences many world leaders. What are the full and exact results of this influence?

I suppose that the development of a "psychopathic" form of Public Relations was inevitable. But to what extent was this pushed along by the shocking reality of ET? Public Relations as a subject has always existed, but not really written about until the early 1900s. The corporate world was slowly but surely gaining a prominence and dominance in the lives and economies of the people of Earth, and they needed PR to assist them in this project.

Hubbard himself wrote extensively about the importance of PR. He however warned that dishonesty in PR would ultimately lead to its failure. Once a compulsive liar is exposed, he is never trusted again.

Or is he? It doesn't help that society seems to have a short memory for most transgressions, except for the ones that someone constantly reminds us of. Thus, for example, we have one group - being constantly reminded of Income Tax, the JFK assassination and various other deceptions - that is convinced that the federal government is a "swamp" that must be "drained." While another group, constantly reminded of the racial and class transgressions of various local power groups - including police - that is totally convinced that we need a strong federal government to protect our civil rights by reining in corrupt local officials.

I just tonight saw a program on PBS about the "Divided We Fall" project which seems to have been put together by some marketing / public opinion people interested in "group psychology." It was cute and entertaining in many ways, but basically pablum. In this concept of human psychology, one's "truth" is totally defined by "lived experience." And that does NOT seem to include scholarly activities or serious study of subjects.

While I agree that most people "feel" their way through life because they don't really have the resources to take a more intellectual approach, this cannot be our ultimate fate or we are doomed. If I did not study, not only would I know nothing about physics, electronics, biology or the theory of evolution, but I would also know nothing about Spirit, actual human psychology and the full range of potential human abilities, or the theory of Intelligent Design.

We are given the impression that all we have time for is watching TV, and our information resources do not extend much beyond entertainment, news and maybe YouTube. I can tell you that if a person stopped watching TV and YouTube and started reading real books, or their online or audio equivalents, and bothered to actually look up their misunderstood words, that they would become a "genius" by comparison to most of their zombie friends in a month or two. There is SO MUCH out there to study, and most people are totally unaware of it.

Thus we have the broadcast media. Before the Internet, we had TV. And before TV we had radio. And again we are back to the early 1900s. These were methods for both Corporate and other organized groups to consolidate their power and influence by creating an entertainment environment that was so captivating and - you could say, flattering - to the audience that it would capture the attention of the majority of the population, which would then fall under its control. The pesky problems of Democracy are thus sidestepped. Though psychopaths certainly played a role in all of this, I believe the responsibility for it must be accepted by a wider group. Psychopaths, after all, are incapable of being responsible.

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